The fun of discussing school children massacres with idiots

Some years ago, my south Alabama amiga Elizabeth blessed the world with perhaps the kick ass of all poems:

All want the security of the well fed pig.
Horror at the baseness unrecognized.
A lifetime spent in shirt stuffing.
And pen comparison.
Is truth more palatable when honeyed?
Is a stark soulscape less so with the eyes of Monet?
May my affectations always be known and understood.

Elizabeth recently posted on Facebook this kick ass of all of gun lover asses: 

Rose Bright

April 10, 2023 

Cars don't kill people PEOPLE DO...

Yet we track, insure & regulate cars 

Sloan Bashinsky

That ain’t fair, Eliza

Thomas

We track, insure and regulate people too. Every now and then the regulation is broken and people die.

Joe

And cars STILL kill more Americans every year than guns, despite not being made for killing.

So... we need to shoot the cars with our guns?

Sloan Bashinsky

Joe How many people die in cars are viewed as victims of terrorist attacks? How many people who cause auto accidents are charged with murder? Hope you don't have a young children and get a call from your local police department one day that they were mowed down at school..

Joe

Back when nobody got shot at my high school, there were guns VISIBLE IN STUDENTS' CARS IN THE STUDENT PARKING LOT. I and many of my friends had our very own shotguns in the bedroom closet at home. And they never went to school. And no one ever even thought about bringing one to school.

"Access to firearms" has never had a higher barrier to entry in the history of the firearm than it does right now in the United States. If you focus too hard on the guns themselves, you will never figure out why some people choose to use them to commit mayhem.

I do not say this for selfish reasons as a gun owner and supporter of gun rights. I say this as someone very sad about this phenomenon, who knows guns and gun owners, who is plainly telling you, the tool itself is not the problem. But no one wants to talk about the problem that makes people pick up a gun and do things like this. That's because we are cowards and we are looking for the easy solution. There isn't one.

Joe

The Nashville trans shooter chose and rejected one potential Target precisely because it had armed security. We protect the money in our banks with guns. Are people trying to tell me that our children are not as valuable? Because until we unravel this problem, the only practical solution is to keep someone around whose job it is to shoot back if this should ever happen.

Sloan Bashinsky

Joe I agree 100-percent. Yet, starting at the bottom, or starting at the top, you pick, government officials, city, county, state, national, left leaning and right leaning, do nothing but talk, talk, talk, and argue, argue, argue. While the school children massacres continue. God has watched all of that, and God will not forget the country that bills itself as "one nation, under God" did nothing to stop the massacres of its school children. The whole world knows America's "one nation, under "God" claim is bull shit. 

State governors should have coordinated with President Biden, and and President Trump before that, to station fully-armed, locked and loaded national guardsmen/women and U.S. soldiers in America's public pre, lower and middle schools, and closed the public high schools, like happened during covid, and let high school students take virtual classes and exams, from the safety of their homes. Private schools should have hired armed-to-the-teeth paramilitary to guard their schools and students. 

The massacres of school children is destroying America, and will destroy it, if allowed to continue. 

Actually, there is an easy solution. Use national guards and US military to protect public schools, and private schools hire paramilitary to protect their schools. all the talking is simply jerking off, posturing, and God is watching and there will be a reckoning, I not in this life, then in the afterlife.

Joe

Sloan Bashinsky God has already spoken on the subject. The Book of Luke alone says that an armed man can keep his goods safe in his home, and that the disciples should trade their cloaks for swords. Psalms says that God prepares our hands for war against the wicked. 

Why can't we post armed guards at schools until we figure out why we even need them there? Because we obviously need them there. Nowadays, anyway. And why aren't we asking why we didn't used to need them? Again, access to firearms has nothing to do with it, because anyone with a brick and enough guts could have secured a firearm in seconds when I was in high school.

Sloan Bashinsky

Joe the past was trumped by school massacres, about which America did and continues to zero. Bibles do not excuse that. Nor does God.

Thomas

Or mowed down by a car.

Sloan Bashinsky

Thomas how many children are intentionally mowed down by a car? 

The Devil loves debate and children not being protected in their schools

Thomas

Just talking about car wrecks and you can keep your God. Cars don't mow people down, people drive the cars.

Joe

Sloan Bashinsky If you didn't want God used in a rebuttal, you shouldn't have used him while making a point. If you don't like that, don't do that.

Back when there were rifle courses at high school, when students were actually issued firearms, nobody got shot with one. How about we bring that back? There were fewer shootings at school when there were more guns at school.

I am fully in favor of federally funded gun safety education in public schools. That would solve a lot of this all by itself. The rest is up to the parents, who really made this mess themselves anyway at some point in the last 30 years.

By the way, you can't say "God is watching" and "the devil loves debate" in the same argument on the same topic. Pick one and stick with it.

After that, I double dog dare you to come up with a solution of your own that has nothing to do with banning all the guns, or even some of them. Perhaps along the way you can explain to me how nobody got shot at school back in the days when school kids literally had guns in their hands at school in rifle courses.

Sloan Bashinsky

Joe I already provided you an easy solution that bypasses the gun jerk off debate. Use the national guards and military.

Joe

See, there's a pesky little law called the Posse Comitatus Act. You can't do that. It's against the law.

That's before we mention that this is a purely municipal responsibility. Towns have their own law enforcement. It should be cops or deputies, perhaps in a newly formed School Resource Squad or something, who are directly answerable to local authorities, local parents, and local voting citizens. If, God forbid, a Uvalde happens, a completely incompetent disaster, you don't want to wait for a phone call from Washington that ain't coming. You want a desk to pound on, right in your town. Which is primarily what you want in nearly every case.

That's also before I point out that you are talking about installing US troops as an occupying force, within the United States, in public schools. I thought that's how terrorists were made in other countries. 

 

Sloan Bashinsky

Joe Day Unfortunately, neither the Posse Act, nor anyone, contemplated the evolution of mass murders in schools by deranged, demonic people bearing guns fully condoned by Amendment 2, according to NRA, the American right, and US Supreme Court. None of which stationed themselves in schools to protect school children. So, based on your legal mind, school children are shit out of luck. There is nothing the President can do to protect them from domestic terrorists. I know you have a great deal of company, and I also know God, Jesus, the Virgin Mary and the Holy Spirit could care less about your legalities. That's why angels now are stepping in and dealing with school shootings in a way over which no human being has any control. The reckoning, aka karma, for those who could have protected school children, but came up with excuses, argued legalities, will not be pretty. 

Sloan Bashinsky

Joe Unfortunately, neither the Posse Act, nor anyone, contemplated the evolution of mass murders in schools by deranged, demonic people bearing guns fully condoned by Amendment 2, according to NRA, the American right, and US Supreme Court. None of which stationed themselves in schools to protect school children. Nor did the states and local governments do that.  So, based on your legal mind, school children are shit out of luck. There is nothing the President can do to protect them from domestic terrorists. 

 

I know you have a great deal of company, and I also know God, Jesus, the Virgin Mary and the Holy Spirit could care less about your legalities. That's why angels now are stepping in and dealing with school shootings in a way over which no human being has any control. The reckoning, aka karma, for those who could have protected school children, but came up with excuses, argued legalities, will not be pretty. 

 

Uvalde was a slaughter before law enforcement showed up. It was a slaughter because the children had no armed guards to keep the terrorist out of their school.   

 

So, the President of the United States of America did not federalize the Alabama National Guard and use it to force Alabama Governor George Wallace to step aside and allow black student enrollees enter the University of Alabama? 

 

So, the President of the United States cannot use the US Military to defend America from domestic terrorists? The US Military only can protect Americans from foreign terrorists? 

 

You say I can't put God and the Devil into the same event? For a fact, the Devil loves the gun debates, which are going nowhere, and for a fact, God is watching all of that, and how each person deals with it, or doesn't deal with it. Everyone involved is on trial in God's Court. 

In that context, this came to me from out of the blue yesterday: 

 

Because parents and local, state and national government did nothing to stop the school slaughters, angels of God implemented three outcomes, depending of what a child's soul needs. 

 

A child is spared death. 

 

A child dies and its soul is taken to safety, because there is no reason for the child to be alive on this planet. 

 

A child's soul is taken and a different soul arrives, because the incoming soul needs to experience what the departing soul did not need to experience. 

 

Two New Testament passages then came to me:

Matthew 18:3

And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

Matthew 19:13,14

Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Joe

Sloan Bashinsky And I am willing to protect children with the most extreme and graphic violence necessary. And children used to not need this particular protection in this particular instance.

We absolutely will not solve this until we figure out why school shooters shoot up schools. "It's the guns" is factually incorrect. 

As for your historical arguments, that was a federalism/constitutional issue, not a local safety issue. The use of federal troops for this purpose is unnecessary, unlawful, illegal, and unconstitutional. 

As for your passion about children's souls: we'll have a more productive effort to solve this problem if you stop with the false dichotomy that anyone who disagrees with your proscriptions is okay with dead kids. Nobody's okay with dead kids. We must think you're dead fucking wrong about how to keep them alive. So we agree that dead kids is an awful thing, right? Right. Let's start from THERE instead.

Sloan Bashinsky

Joe What's dead fucking wrong is children being shot to death in their schools, and figuring out what goes on in the minds of the shooters will not stop the slaughter. The shooters are deranged and possessed by the Devil 

Other than the US Military and the National Guards, the only other way to stop the slaughter is for the schools to close, like what happened during the covid lockdown, and children stay home and are taught virtually. Neither of those solutions happened, so angels intervened for the children, and there is nothing humans can do about that, other than get off their sorry asses and defend the schools to the teeth. The only thing available to do that is the National Guards and the US Military, because it's crystal clear the states and local governments and school boards aren't going to do it. 

 

After all of my ranting, something came to me about pro-lifers that caused me to wonder why it had not come to me first? I wrote someone about that and posted it fresh onto my Facebook timeline.

Sloan Bashinsky
It looks to this Independent that the gun debate is over, dead and buried, because no matter what might or might not happen in the future, there are so many guns in America like those in the photo, which are easy to acquire, that regulating or banning such guns would be like the answer to the Zen koan, What is the sound of one hand clapping? Silence. Except for terrified school children's screams as they are hunted, shot and killed with such guns in their classroom, and their parents screams, after they learn what has happened to their children in school. 
I keep wondering why there are so many school shooting massacres in the nation that bills itself as "one nation, under God"? I don't see any way God views such a nation as being "under God".
I keep wondering why the American right shrieks against abortion of even seven-week-old fetuses, but does absolutely nothing to defend even their own young school children and grandchildren in their schools from crazed, demon-possessed terrorists.
I keep wondering why the right-to-lifers aren't shrieking for armed-to-the-teeth guards in every public school in America, to save living children from being massacred by such guns as in the photo? 
I keep wondering why the right-to-lifers aren't beating down their state governors' doors to deploy their state National Guardsmen into their public schools? 
I keep wondering why the right-to-lifers aren't beating down President Biden's door for him to deploy his soldiers into America's public schools? And, why didn't they beat down President Donald Trump's door to do that?
Have the right-to-lifers forgotten President John F. Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard and sent it to the University of Alabama to move Alabama Governor George Wallace aside, and escort black enrollees to class at the University of Alabama? Are today's school children of any color or ethnic background not as important as those black students at the University of Alabama?
Obviously not, based on how the right-to-lifers, and the rest of Americans, and their local governments and state governors, and Congress and President Biden and President Donald Trump before him, have done zip, nada, zero to keep America's school students form being slaughtered by such guns as seen in the photo. 
Yet, those students were kept home by President Trump and school boards during the covid lockdown, and they studied virtually, not because they were at much risk to covid, but because their parents and grandparents were. America was shut down to protect, not its children, but their parents and grandparents. 

High school and college students can look after themselves. Let them stay home and study virtually. But for God's sake, put America's soldiers armed to the teeth into public lower and middle schools, to protect young children from being slaughtered by guns such as in the photo. 

What about private schools? I don't think the U.S. Constitution gives them any rights to federal military protection from shooters, but I hope they hire and deploy paramilitary guards armed to the teeth.

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