If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you

For the first time in a while, puzzleheaded me had some fun and felt some warm fuzzies at a Reddit spirituality forum.

Self-Transformation

Posted by Puzzleheaded 

 

If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you.

If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you. – Gospel of Thomas, verse 70

Usernametaken

This is true, you need to help others with your knowledge and experiences, and the Universe will help you too

Mocs

I also believe the universe will bring you those precise people needing your knowledge and experience, and not having to go "save the world" kind of thing. Path of least resistance to what is natural for you.

Puzzleheaded

I would have called it God, because that's what I was raised to call it, but, yes, life brings us what we need to grow, develop and mature, and how that proceeds depends on how we respond, or not. It's probably more helpful, in the long run, if we try to save ourselves, before trying to save something else, which reminds us, unawares probably, of our own need to be saved. Yet, sometimes, something outside of us needs saving and, if we are able to help it be saved, then that's something God laid on us to do, or not. Whether we get some kind of immediate or distant reward for that, is another matter, above my pay grade, at least. However, this post is about internal work, and perhaps can be likened somewhat to Jesus in the Gospels saying, "First, take the beam out of our own eye."

Old timey brain

This has come to me recently from several sources, and it is now making quite a bit of sense.

Sky

The first time I read this quote it brought me such a sense of peace and acceptance of my self.

Puzzleheaded

Back some distance in time, I was deeply involved in psycho-spiritual healing, both as a patient and as a practitioner. I saw really volatile emotional stuff come up out of people and out of myself, which had been living there unknown to the host. After angels got a hold of me, they amplified exponentially that process, and some of what they brought up out of me was absolutely terrifying emotionally. I imagine, if all of a sudden, what lives inside of people suddenly is released, humanity will got stark raving mad, en masse, regardless of religious, spiritual or other beliefs, or no beliefs. So, and this is based on my own personal experience and observations of many other people, I think the Thomas quote I posted here is absolutely spot on for people, or for a species, that wish, or hope, to develop, grow and mature humanly and spiritually. I also think there aren't nearly enough therapists, gurus, priests, shamans, etc., who have themselves gotten cleaned up enough inside, to be of much help to anyone else. Which, it looks to me, means it is on angels, or perhaps advanced Ets, to help humanity bring forth from inside itself, what all lives there, or humanity, in the main, will continue devolving, while relatively few individuals progress.

hairwaytosteven

Yep. The answers are within, not without. So within, so without. First make peace in your inner sacred kingdom and peace will manifest in your outer not-so-secret kingdom. It's working for me.

When I've been at war within, the war inevitably manifested without.

Puzzleheaded

Can't say I ever knew anyone who didn't have plenty of raging war within. I wonder if perhaps Jesus in the Gospels had that in mind, when he said, "Hypocrite, first take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brother's eye?"

FrequentBrain 

Authenticity, always

 

Puzzleheaded

But authenticity might not win many, or any, popularity contests :-)

FrequentBrain

This is true, but does your authentic self want or need to win popularity contests?! 😊

Puzzleheaded

First, no.

Second, I tired to make a rhetorical joke.

Third, when we ruin our reputations, we can be free.

GrassFireWater

Right if you are at a party and you drink a cup of piss when people say dude did you drink that you have to be accountable for your actions.

Puzzleheaded

party pooper😎

Lucky7Revolver

Yeah. I still feel bad how I talked to my boss yesterday.

Puzzleheaded

Did you tell your boss that?

walkstwomoons

Makes sense.

Thomas was kicked out during the canonical conference. As were many other books. All are worth the reading.

Puzzleheaded

Ya think the bosses at that conference doubted Thomas? Or, did they doubt including his testimony and advice would not freak out people and they would run like hell?

walkstwomoons

I like the doubting Thomas reference

Thomas and John conflicted, they chose to keep John.

I personally prefer Thomas

Puzzleheaded

Two very different men, maybe the early church honchos cherrypicked the one they felt might be more attractive to market, bring in more new congregants/congregant$?

JCMiller

I need this today. Brought a lot out.

I wish to add: the more humble and connected and open you grow - the more there is to bring out. If you wish to befriend your ego, rather than enslaving or silencing it, it will be an endless supply of life for you and will give you a limitless opportunity to love

Puzzleheaded

Yep, a full time job for the unforeseeable future.

moonshadow

Needed to hear this today, thank you! 💜

Pactolus

If guys like horror/fantasy fiction, John Langan has a story about this exact quote "What You Do Not Bring Forth" in his anthology Children of the Fang. It's short, not scary at all, but one of my favorites of his.

Puzzleheaded

Werewolf lore?

Pactolus

That story specifically isn't werewolf-related, it's more philosophical, but if you go over on r/horrorlit they have tons of recommendations for werewolf fiction. My first two recs to anyone are "Those Across the River" by Christopher Buehlman, and "Cycle of the Werewolf" by Stephen King.

Puzzleheaded

Thanks, merely was curious. Fang, and such. The Thomas quote is about something else altogether, such as, acknowledging, owning up to, bringing up out of us, and finally dealing with the werewolf in us, a not fun or pleasing horror story, but necessary, to avoid our werewolf killing us.

Narrow-Sherbet

GOT is the GOAT :) I have an audiobook presentation if you're interested https://youtu.be/7c2PZU8o5nU

Puzzleheaded

Much thanks, will pass that link along.

NarrowSherbet

Awesome, the GOT has been a huge blessing for me and contains such amazing very rare deep truth ! Namaste Puzzlehead.

NarrowSherbet

I felt like the black sheep for a long time and this passage gave me great comfort...

107. Jesus said, "The (Father's) kingdom is like a shepherd who had a hundred sheep. One of them, the largest, went astray. He left the ninety-nine and looked for the one until he found it. After he had toiled, he said to the sheep, 'I love you more than the ninety-nine.'"

Puzzleheaded

Well, shucks. I'm the black sheep in my birth family😎

sloanbashinsky@yahoo.com

perceptions, perspectives, beliefs, like noses, everyone has them - but humanity clearly is in deep spiritual doo doo

At Reddit/spirituality:

Posted by Gabriel
All anguish will be turned into joy.✨
Every single last bit of it. There will be nothing left.

Mystical
Whomever constructs their belief of the matter through experience, not thought.

Puzzleheaded
In many ways and arenas experience moved me past belief, into knowing. I have not experienced all anguish was turned into joy, nor has anyone I have known nor heard of, at least, not while in a physical body, at least not that lasted for more than a brief moment in time and in space.

Adot
It will turn to joy, just believe and act accordingly

Puzzleheaded
You achieved that?

Adot
It isn't something you set out to achieve, it's something that happens when you allow it to.

Puzzleheaded
It happened to you?

Adot
Has, is and will.

Puzzleheaded
Lucky you.
I never met anyone all of whose anguish became joy while they were still breathing.

Adot
Call it luck, call it love, call it whatever you want. It's good for anybody to die twice

Puzzleheaded
I died quite a few times, in the spiritual sense, and never came close to what you describe.

UNCENSORED LIGHTWORKERS Facebook group:

Sloan Bashinsky 
Administrator Josh St. Germain invited me to join this group, and I did that and posted a couple of things and then I commented under two of Josh's posts. 
I see Josh tolerates self-promotion, so...
I'm 80 years old and perhaps it's not stretching it much to say I've had at least a dozen different lives this time around.
Back in January of this year (2023), I started a new blogspot, where I reported stuff  going on in my life and psyche, including discussions at Facebook, Reddit Spirituality, Poetic Outlaws, The Order of Pen and The Official C.S. Lewis. 
My blogspot has no ads or soliciting. I just put it out there and move on. The most recent post there contains my initial posts and comments at UNCENSORED Lightworkers. Here's a link: 

old, tired, bedraggled, life-and-angel-mangled man meets UNCENSORED LIGHTWORKERS

Josh St GermainAdmin

Love you Sloan.

Sloan BashinskyAuthor

Josh St Germain Thanks, Josh, yet we are only just getting to know each other. I am not nearly at the point of being able to say I love everyone, or even a whole lot of people. I am pretty sure God loves us all, including the Devil and all of its demons, but I still have quite a ways to go. What you post at UNCENSORED LIGHTWORKERS provides people who see it with lots of ways of looking at and approaching life on this world, and elsewhere, which mainstream (STATUS QUO) does not. I wish though, that you, and other people, share personal experiences, which demonstrate metaphysics, or whatever anyone wishes to call it, operating inside them and in their daily lives, aka the grindstone and furnace and so forth that living on this world providers ongoing. I very much appreciate uncensored, which is pretty rare at online forums, platforms, etc.

Josh St GermainAdmin

Sloan Bashinsky I used to be selective with Love as well, thought I was obligated to. But then one day I realized everyone needs it, and it's only natural. Life may have given you a rollercoaster, but that doesn't mean you can't step off and live in bliss/euphoria. 

Sloan Bashinsky  

John St. GermaineAdmin I've got a long way to go, I can't bring myself to even love me unconditionally, and I know for a fact, proven every second I'm awake, and even in my dreams, that I cannot step off the roller coaster of life and live in bliss/euphoria. That's why I like to see people share what their own lives are like. You told me that you have cancer. I had prostate cancer during the covid lock down and chose radiation treatment, which was horrible. I felt like I ws dying. There was no way to visualize, wish, hope, positive think myself into a different space. Now what the radiation did to other parts of me is showing up, and it's no fun. I've had IBS since age 27. It arrived in one day, there was no warning, prior symptoms. It chewed me up every day since. Nothing I tired, medical, herbal, metaphysical, had any effect. It had a mind of its own, it is intelligent, it does not like being messed with. I never met, read about or heard of anyone, who was able to jump off the roller coaster of life, without the help of booze and/or other drugs or suicide. If you were/are able to do it, then you are beyond my comprehension.

Josh St GermainAdmin
Sloan Bashinsky I allowed God into my life and became aware of my abilities. I hold the vision of what I want for it to manifest with grace of having it.

Like a vending machine, I put in effort, and what I want comes right out. Unless I'm not specific enough or I lack faith in my abilities, then it's postponed until I regain awareness and confidence in the abilities. Coming from a place of negativity I always found myself doubting anything "magical" so to speak, until I returned to the mode of 100% Love, then it all comes rushing back. My problem was everytime I got myself in a good place like that, I dealt with people trying to sabotage it, most of the times immediately. Becoming angry from the attacks lowered my vibration back to a state of doubt, but after I realized they we're just hurting I either consulted them, or blessed all parties involved and walk away.

Sloan BashinskyAuthor
Josh St Germain A Course in Miracles says people who act out actually are screaming for help.

I've been attacked so many times that I cannot possibly chronicle even a small part of it. That was part of what was given to me to do over many seasons and variations I could not in my wildest dreams and imaginings have foreseen. To wade into and challenge the status quo, regardless of any blowback or my own discomfort or personal risk. I was not allowed any way to escape, or even mute my own physical or other discomfort, other than sometimes I was advised, or shown, to step away from something already engaged. 

Always, what I addressed was driven by a demonic force behind the visible. I understood I was that force's target, and what I had engaged was that force's bait. I was trained a long time by angels, as they eased me into that line of work. Each situation was different, and sometimes I was softer than other times, and sometimes I should have been softer than I was. 

Based on my experiences, humanity is under a cosmic X-Ray now, and where that might lead, I have no clue. But, based on what I have been through and been shown, and a friend and I have been told, humanity, in the main, is is deep spiritual doo doo. It is devolving spiritually, mostly because its feminine aspect is mangled, even destroyed. Humanity is spiritually cloning itself, while some individuals are progressing. 

I told all of that to the angels, after they asked me in 2004, "What do you think of the species?" And, that I thought  the species would not survive what was being done do and for me, and perhaps the kindest thing would be to remove the species from this planet and put it somewhere it has a better chance of moving forward.

Perhaps what you have wired into makes all of that obsolete. It reminds me, in some ways, of what I heard when I lived in Santa Fe, NM and then in Boulder, CO. I imagine God has infinite ways of trying to reach human beings. I met people in Boulder and Santa Fe, whose path seemed to be trying to change by imagining or visualizing what they wanted and it becoming so, even as I was hearing, so to speak, over and over, not my will, but God's will be done. 

 

Josh St GermainAdmin

Sloan Bashinsky God's will for sure.

Sloan BashinskyAuthor
Josh St Germain amen

At Poetic Outlaws Substack:

This World

By: Czeslaw Milosz

It appears that it was all a misunderstanding.
What was only a trial run was taken seriously.
The rivers will return to their beginnings.
The wind will cease in its turning about.
Trees instead of budding will tend to their roots.
Old men will chase a ball, a glance in the mirror–
They are children again.
The dead will wake up, not comprehending.
Till everything that happened has unhappened.
What a relief! Breathe freely, you who have suffered much.

A.D

Fuck yeah. I just suffered a pretty big loss and this hits the spot. The concept of unhappening, unwinding, and a return to the depths of the self. Coordinates well with some of the Zen and Taoist stuff I've been reading, too. 

Casey Henry 

Fuck yeah like the other guy said  

Felix Purat

Gotta love me some Milosz. Pure gold, every word!

Solero Taylor

'We lived in strange, hostile, marvellous times 

bullets sang above our heads 

and years no less threatening than tearing shrapnel

taught greatness (even) to those who did not see 

war.'

Czeslaw Milosz

The paths they eventually ploughed through the wood 

Qualified our childhood and shrank the shadows back

Into more wholesome fare, 

better for dogwalkers and the like 

Just as they engineered steps into the steep sides 

Leading down to the frothy suds where Unilever 

Churned out soap, the scented stink souring air 

Between ourselves and Haughton Green, higher 

On the opposite bank, their boys versus our boys 

Pinging pellets from fairground rifles across the River 

Tame. I was proud to live within shooting range

Of the second most polluted river 

In Western Europe, mephitic then (and now)

To all decorative intent, awful in and of itself 

A Christmas kiss 

Snatched under last year's mistletoe 

By a man without teeth 

Just his tongue reaching 

for the past again, 

entered through a younger mouth 

Measured. Marked. Cut. 

Owen Swain

Bought a good used hardcover copy of his New and Collected Poetry. If I could use only one word to describe his overall work it would be 'penetrating'. If I could use two more and combine them it would be 'lucid Wonder'.

Sloan Bashinsky

Oh do I hope such a redo is possible,

nay, 

actually is

in the cards

in the stars

the next sunrise

Alas, 

humanity

the species

invasive

morassed

Sargasso sea

Pacific plastic vortex

fossil fuel addiction exponential 

is the planet sentient?

can she protect herself?

if she wants?

duh?

in U.S. patent office

proven devices

convert water into

super cheap

hydrogen fuel

for internal combustion engines

death to oil industry

prohibited by Atomic Energy Commission

while angels and extra terrestrials 

watch

waiting

wondering

hoping

invasive species

gets its shit together

or it's their turn

or the planet's 

 sloanbashinsky@yahoo.com

old, tired, bedraggled, life-and-angel-mangled man meets UNCENSORED LIGHTWORKERS

 

A fellow following a discussion in which I was participating at The Order of Penbook Facebook Group, invited me to join his UNCENSORED LIGHTWORKERS Facebook group. 

I joined and made two posts, which the Admin accepted:

Sloan Bashinsky 

This fell out of me in the spring of 1995:

Earth...

The sacred prism

through which souls are refracted

into their elemental parts,

purified in Holy Fire,

then one-forged

and sent on their way

to not even God knows where,

simply because they are all

unique emanations of God,

evolving ...

Sloan Bashinsky 
Around 1992, I lived in Boulder, Colorado, and was seeing a Barbara Brennan-trained Hands of Light worker once a week. She had a great reputation among healers in the Boulder/Denver area, I think during the 5th session, she was doing something and then she said my Core Star had grabbed her Core Star and was taking it on a tour of the Universe, and it was amazing. The next session, after working on me a little while, she said whatever I was involved in was beyond her range and she felt she shouldn't work with me any more. I thanked her, paid her, wished her well, and left, I never found a healer who didn't run up against something in me that was beyond his/her range. I already was being dealt with by angels, and that's where I went entirely, although not always in straight lines.

I then responded to some of the Admin's posts:

UNCENSORED LIGHTWORKERS

Josh St Germain

Admin 

 

 

 

John Schultz 

This will not only save the world…. It will save YOU. The power of our subconscious is inestimable. When you start to cultivate this idea, it will tear down walls (of pain, hatred, fear) and expand your heart and inner self (whether you see that as your soul, your subconscious, your true self)

Sloan Bashinsky
Heh, I've done all of that, and some more, for decades, and I get up each morning wondering why I'm still here and hoping I get to die quick, better still, instantly, instead of what most old people face in America today. I ruled out something saving humanity from itself, after realizing how hard Buddha, Jesus and others tried, and how it went after they were gone from this world. I think saving the world itself would entail eliminating humanity, which, in the main, seems determined to destroy the the world in progressive steps. It looks to me that it's up to each person to do, or not do, what their soul requires to progress and evolve during this physical experience called life by humanity. That's how I read Jesus, and Buddha before him, and other sages, mages, avatars. So, I agree with what you posted, but at age 80, when nothing works inside me like ii was designed to work, except, hopefully, my brain, hopefully again, I endure and keep plugging away. 

And: 

UNCENSORED LIGHTWORKERS

Josh St Germain 

 Admin

Bree Ritch

Sloan Bashinsky

And her emotions, and her hopes, dreams, subconscious programming, prejudices, etc?

Josh St GermainAuthorAdmin

Self explanatory, control your mind and trust the universe to assist you on your journey.

Sloan Bashinsky

Josh St Germain that has gone well for you?

Josh St GermainAuthorAdmin

Sloan Bashinsky always, with love and vigilance.

Sloan Bashinsky

Josh St Germain perhaps sharing actual examples of from your own life might help other people see how it’s done

Josh St GermainAuthorAdmin
Sloan Bashinsky Still your mind for answers, everyone has a unique journey. Flow with Love, trust the universe, but remain vigilant. Hold 100% Love consistently, don't take shit, or subject yourself to it unnecessarily. Be a good example by being yourself unapologetically and while remaining respectful of others. May God shine through you unto the world.

Sloan Bashinsky

Josh St Germain Again, and I'm must one person, but I like to hear what someone promoting something actually proved it in his/her own life experiences. I like what you are saying, but I would like to see living examples of you doing what you explain in words.

Sloan Bashinsky

Josh St Germain By way of a somewhat different topic you posted something about kundalini energy? Or was that someone else? Yet, what experience had that poster had with kundalini energy? A fellow named Gopi Krishna had a great deal of experience with Kundalini energy, and he became viewed as an expert on it, by virtue of his own experience. When he first experienced kundalini, it was luminous, wonderful, blew his mind. Then, he then went into a terrifying time when he thought he was going mad, and yogis he went to were not able to help him, and he was in a very precarious situation internally for a long time. He had to change his diet and focus his mind ongoing, and he had to stop medidating, which he viewed as very dangerous to him at that time. Here's a link to something written about him and that: 

http://www.om-guru.com/html/saints/gopi.html

OM-GURU.COM

A short Biography of Gopi Krishna

OM-GURU.COM

A short Biography of Gopi Krishna

Josh St GermainAuthorAdmin
Sloan Bashinsky Examples of how keeping my mind under control I was taken care of? With God in my heart and a sound mind I survived car accidents, disease, and more.
15 guys tried to jump me and my 2 friends at a fair, I walked away unscathed. Hit a telephone pole, totaled my car and walked away. And I laugh at cancer because even though I haven't beat it yet, I'm still able to enjoy all the bliss and euphoria without the aids of substances because I put my trust in the Lord. I suggest you do the same.

Sloan Bashinsky

Josh St Germain Really sorry you have cancer. It got my favorite nice two years ago, she was like a daughter to me. In early 1987, I was captured by Jesus and Archangel Michael, and told "This will push you to your limits, but you asked for it and we are going to give it to you " I had prayed to God to help me, I didn't want to die, failed. I offered my life to human service. That was what they referred to. I then was jolted three times, quickly, by spiritual lightning, and was shaking and sweating, as they dissolved from this realm. I always had believed God existed. After that, I knew God existed. They turned me every which a way but loose and upside down and inside out, and stood me before endless mirrors, and put me into all sorts of test situations, and they are still at it. There were times when I had nothing left but to trust God. I lived on the street. All sorts of rough shit happened, but not such as you describe here, but I do believe you.

Josh St GermainAuthorAdmin

Sloan Bashinsky 

YOUTUBE.COM

Little girl at hospital 

https://youtube.com/shorts/qQ9dJJxZpjc?feature=share

YOUTUBE.COM

Little girl at hospital

Little girl at hospital

Sloan Bashinsky
Tragic, courage, beauty, suffering and faith.
My niece’s last day, her husband said, there was so much pain, she was screaming. Chemotherapy had ravaged her and had not worked. Same a different later chemotherapy she abandoned because it was so awful. She knew I wished she had not done chemo. I was begging God to take me instead of her. If she had been a beloved pet dog or cat, a vet would have gently ended her suffering. She was a unicorn, I published on FB and my blog, and now she was regaling Heaven, and I hoped they were ready for her.

Josh St GermainAuthorAdmi

Sloan Bashinsky
This explains how to activate kundalini. It is a byproduct, not a conscious decision; and that is where people have errors.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1934049516942256/permalink/1935468203467054/?mibextid=Nif5oz

Sloan Bashinsky
Josh St Germain Admin Awakening and managing the kundalini can be learned from a book?

Josh St GermainAuthorAdmin

Sloan Bashinsky Possibly, I did it on my own. I still have a hard time finding information on the subject matter. Learning sanskrit, I'm sure over time I'll discover more descriptive texts.

Sloan Bashinsky

Josh St Germain A Christian contemplative named Philip Romaine had a kundalini arousal, which he had to learn how to manage. He wrote a good book about it.

https://www.amazon.com/Kundalini-Energy.../dp/0557372097

AMAZON.COM
Kundalini Energy and Christian Spirituality

AMAZON.COM

Kundalini Energy and Christian Spirituality 

And:

Josh St Germain
Admin

Love is the frequency. 144,000 hz of God!

Christopher Anthony EversonGalactic Council Of Lightworkers

I believe that truth has a frequency and once you understand it you can tap into it. You can use it to decipher anything.

Sloan Bashinsky
I think so, not welcomed by all

Josh St GermainAuthorAdmin

Sloan Bashinsky Replace your 3d analytics with 5D resonance.

Sloan Bashinsky

Josh St Germain No analytics, but a lifetime of direct experiences with how I and other people dealt with the truth. For the most part, it was not well received.

This fell out of me in the fall of 1995, but I wasn't yet ready, perhaps.

Truth without Love

is harsh

Love without Truth

is mush

Two sides

of the same coin

They live together

or die

sloanbashinsky@yahoo.com