I posted this to my Facebook timeline and got a few nibbles.
Sloan BashinskyFebruary 8, 2023I was raised first in the Southern Baptist Church and then in the Episcopal Church and I know their views of salvation through Jesus. After decades of being turned every which a way but loose and upside down and inside out and stood before many mirrors by angels whose names are in the Bible, I concluded salvation through Jesus in the Gospels is proportionate to how someone lives and behaves as Jesus lived and taught people to live. For what kind of God would send a good behaving person to Hell simply because that person did not claim to be a Christian?
MikeBravo, amenCharlesIn areas of thought like this my mind frequently turns to the thief on the cross with Christ who was told " this day you will be with me in paradise". Not a Christian but a believer who had done nothing with his life except acknowledging Jesus.Sloan BashinskyPerhaps the angels on my case for decades will take this up with you. Or maybe Jesus, will. Before you leave this life.JoeSloan, Revelation 20:12-14 Basically provides the rationale for your argument. We'll be judged by how we live. John Wesley said it this way: "Do no harm. Do good. Stay in love with God." It happens that the best model we find is Jesus.SloanThanks. Jesus spent a great deal of time in the Gospels explaining and demonstrating how to live in sync with God. That tells me that he thought how people live is really darn important, and for the life of me I can't grok Christians insisting works have nothing to do with salvation, it's all by God's grace, which we can only get if we are Christians.A fellow named Detriech Bonhoeffer (spelling?) spoke of what he called "cheap grace" in his book, THE COST OF DISCIPLESHIP. He talked about the expensive grace, too - the hard work, taking risks, etc. He is the German who said, "Silence in the face of Evil is itself Evil. " He was part of a group that tried to overthrow Hitler, and he got caught and was executed.JoeThe central belief in Bonhoeffer's theology was the "imitation of Christ," that Jesus is the model of expressing belief in God as the Deity who suffers the loss of God's Creation in humankind and is willing to go to the furthest extreme of love to recover it.Sloan BashinskyWhat I recall of Bonhoeffer was he was not impressed with mainstream Christendom. Looks to me Jesus in the Gospels manifested the Christ in human form, and the religion that claims him today doesn't know him very well. I summarized in my post here some of what I don't hear said much, if at all, in Christian churches and on Facebook about Jesus in the Gospels.
What I view as part of New Age perspective gets a lot of air time at a Reddit spirituality group, where everyone uses a fake name - I'm Puzzleheaded.
Posted by JustMe
February 8, 2023
If the Universe is energy, and we are all unique, that means everyone is their own unique frequency.
Go meditate, go journal, do what you love, and re-connect with your Soul’s essence.
Get rid of the static and the noise in your channel. Clear out everything that isn’t you.
Being in your divine presence is enough to inspire others into doing the same.
I’m here to help ☺️.
Much love 🙏🏼.
PuzzleheadedGenius is painJustMeDoesn’t have to be 🤷♂️PuzzleheadedTell that to John Lennon:Genius is pain lyricsi resent performing for you fuckers!tell me, what do you know?a lot of faggot middle-class kidswearing long hair and trendy clothes.look, i'm not your fucking parentsand i'm sick of uptight hippies coming knocking at me doorwith a fucking peace symbolget this, got that i don't owe you fuckers anything.and all i've got to say is "fuck you!"the sky is blue.and mick jaggeri think that mick's a joke with all his stupid faggot dancingi always did.wiggling his ass, you know, its just a lot of bullshit.and where does he come off saying all those tarty things about the beatles?when every fucking thing we ever didmick tried to copyand you know we even wrote his second fucking record for himno, the stones aren't in the same fucking class as the beatles, either music-wise or power-wise;they never ever were.pardon me sir.paul said he hated yokotell me, why should yoko have to take that kind of shit -shit from those fucking sons of bitches?george said she gave off evil vibesi should have beat the fucking shit right out of him,him with his fucking hari krishna.me auntie she tore up me fucking poemsshe just threw the bastards out.i can't forgive her 'cause she didn't treat me like a fucking genius.look, you bastards, i'm a genius!like shakespeare and beethoven and van gogh.don't you dare criticize my work!"don't worry kyoko" is one of the fucking best rock and roll records ever made!i'm a fucking artist!i'm sensitive as shit!i throw up before i go on stage!i could make a guitar speak!if i could be a fisherman, i would,but i can't because i'm a fucking genius!i was the walrus -paul wasn't the walrus!i was just saying that to be nice, but i was actually the walrus!you know that rubbish he's been singing?eastman was an animal!a fucking stupid middle-class pig!i won't let fucking animals like that near me!yoko is a supreme intellectual!i'll tell you why nobody likes her musicit's because she's a woman,and she's oriental, that's why!where are you mother?they're trying to crucify me!genius is pain,genius is pain,genius is pain,genius is paingenius is pain!!!AAAAAAAAHHHHH!!! OHHHHH!!genius is pain,genius is pain!!OHHHHAAAHHH!!! OOOOOAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!GENIUS IS PAIN!!!!OOOOOOOOO!!! AAAAHHH!! AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!PAIN!!!!! GENIUS!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!! AAAAHHH!!AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! AAAHHH!!PAIN!!!!!! GENIUS!!!!!!PAIN!!!!! AAAHH!!!!!PAIN!!!! GENIUS!!!!! yoko!!!! mother!!!!etc. etc.JustMeLol, but John Lennon was also a pretentious prick.He can believe what he wants. I’m my own frequency 😉.PuzzleheadedAgreed, each of us is on our own frequency, and Lennon may have been a prick - I don't know if he was or wasn't. But he knew the Beatles and he knew Jagger, which I didn't, so I have no standing to disagree with what he said about them. He demonstrated in his song a slice of life on planet Earth, which just about every song written does. And every poem. And every novel. And every TV and radio broadcast. And every podcast.To get out of all of that alphabet soup would require living in a remote cave without internet, cell phone service, radio, TV. In that isolated container, in time, I suppose anyone would become fully acquainted with the noise inside, and if the retreat was allowed to run its full course, by someone bringing the internal pilgrim food and water on a regular enough basis to keep the plilgrim alive. That pilgrim might eventually work though enough internal noise and programming to connect with enough of his/her soul to make it difference in the pilgrim's personal soul evolution.But a time would come when that pilgrim had to return to society and see what there is left to deal with all around and inside. The awful fact is, humanity is in serious difficulty, and the realms around humanity feel that and reflect it back to humanity. Getting up each morning and doing that day is required, even living in a cave. The spiritual path is a long grind. It gets increasingly difficult. I have read and heard a few times, better not to begin the spiritual path, than to begin and then try to get out of it.You seem well-meaning, trying to offer help, encouragement. That is good. But it is not so easy as you seem to suggest, because so much of what any person struggles with is rooted in something or somethings of which he/she is unaware. Soul wounding. Programing. Demonic interference. Lennon's song is a cry for help. It also is something I imagine a lot of people wish he had not published.A COURSE IN MIRACLES was provided from another realm to give human beings a chance to live in the noise and use it to evolve themselves, simply by letting the noise have its way with them and they do their best not to react, no try to figure it out, but to simply sit in the discomfort of anything that punches their buttons. Do that for a year, and a different person emerges. I cannot day I pulled that off, but it is a way to get from here to there. All by our lonesome. And, it's not much fun. It's not uplifting. It's really hard work. And it's not a new approach. It was taught by Buddha, and by Jesus, and by others.JustMeMy friend, it’s a lot of words. The spiritual path may not be easy, but if you’re always following the road without but never the road within, you can never truly find Heaven within you.The world is a dark and scary place, but all of that out there starts in here (if you catch my drift).Lennon, Jagger, Dylan, and all these guys made deals with the devil. Dylan said it himself.In exchange for wealth, they sold their souls. And they paid the price.Nobody can truly be happy when they’ve sold their soul to an industry. There is no freedom, there is no true innerstanding. Life is only what is given’ to you, rather than what one creates.I believe in you friend to take the inner path. It is not easy, at all. But from experience, it’s oh so rewarding.PuzzleheadedI started on the inner path in early 1986, and the next year angels showed up and, in phases, stood me in front of mirrors looking at me. I wrote books about it, and tried to assist other people with it, even as I continued to deal with my own stuff, as it was called back then. I'm not impressed with Lennon or Jagger, although I have liked some of their music. I'm 80 years old. I've been lots of places internally and externally, often could be described as stranger than fiction, but I became accustomed to it, mostly. The tough grind, like being under a waterwheel grindstone inside a blacksmith forge on his anvil under his hammer and being struck my lightning and tsunamis and volcanoes and earthquakes and avalanches and more. Not so intense for some time, but the internal grinding is relentless. My G.I. tract is used like a sewage treatment plant to process my own and outside spirit shit. I was not turned into a monk in a monastery or a cave. I was sent into the world. I was put with different gifted women, who accelerated me and ripped my heart to shreds, too. No women for a while, don't expect to that to happen again. It's not all inside word, and it's not all outside work. It's both, back and forth, and at same time. This may sound like throwing spaghetti at a wall, but living it is something very different.
Meanwhile, the NOISE caused by human beings on planet Earth suggests, under as above, so below, as below, so above, there is a great deal of discord and disturbance and not much harmony.
JustMeYup. Let’s hope harmony is on the horizon 🙏🏼.PuzzleheadedNot any time soon, absent a miracle or the sudden disappearance of humanity from Earth.JustMeLol why so unhappyPuzzleheadedI can't imagine anyone being particularly happy, who lived in my skin. There are bright moments, but mostly it's a trough grind physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually. However, how I feel at any given moment doesn't change what is going on in plain view in humanity. Some people are changing, evolving, moving forward. The species is not doing that, and that is something those moving forward have to live and cope with, and use to evolve their own souls. Consider Jesus in the Gospels, surrounded by asleep, even dead, people. Living in and engaging that soup was part of his own soul's growth. Was he happy about it, and about what he knew lay before him? Not based on what he reportedly said about it in the Gospels. But it was his to do, and he undertook it, knowing very few people would get what he really was about. Look at mainstream Christianity today. Does it appear to have gotten what Jesus was really about?JustMeAbsolutely not, which is why those who truly understand Jesus’s message will separate themselves from the rest. This is a task I undertook myself.I can only imagine what you’ve been through, but hopefully what I share here helps:The mind is all there is. The past is nothing more than an illusion; an experience to create attachments from. There will be a time where death will come. If you can do the work now to heal from past wounds and to die from all the old hurts of an old self, then there will no longer be anything to hold you back from living in your highest potential.The road to healing is scary, and potentially years long… but you’ve got nowhere else to be, and nothing else to lose.I wish you strength, friend 🧡. And just know if nobody else believes in you, then at the very least I do 🙏🏼.PuzzleheadedI don't think you can imagine what I've been through, as I've only known a few people who experienced something similar, at the hands of angels mentioned in the Bible. Before the angels started in on me in earnest, I had some pretty intensive hands-on psychospiritual training by very respected people. Yet, eventually something came up out of me, which was beyond their experience and range, and some of them told me that, and others didn't. What the angels later dug up out of me often was terrifying. Before and after that, a few people came to me, who were not getting help elsewhere. It's been over twenty years since I did that kind of work. Mostly today, my work is what I say in a podcast and write online and tell people sometimes. I'm 80 years old, my star has mostly run its course. It's pretty well laid out in my writings and the podcast at Torrent and internet archives/libraries, free and no solicit nothing.
JustMeStick to the middle way and trust your path friend. Wishing you well 😌🙏🏼.PuzzleheadedThanks. Except for my metaphysical experiences and views, I live a pretty tame life.
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